Fallen Angles

(03 Aug 2006 22:21)

***this work is still in progress and is not complete yet***
As usual I don't mind curse words.You don't have to read it all I designed this so you could look back for reference as to what the hell I'm talking about That's why the verses are there..

Hi,Here goes one of my usual strange topics.It's about fallen angels and their infulence on mandkind and whether they actually exist and all that good stuff.My goal is not try and make people believe in what I believe but to present a factual and non-factual article so people can decide for themselves.
Ok let's start with the beggining.

According to some believers.There are angels in heaven but some rebelled against god these are satan's servants.Here's some scriptural reference.
Gen 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.


Ok so we have sons of god these are NOT men.Who have taken flesh woman and mated with them due to their beauty.These offspring of the angels and flesh woman are refered to as "giants" But the word in hebrew is nephilim from the root nephal which means "fallen" as in fallen angels.

Now these giants were evil and god decided to destory everything.When it speaks of noah being perfect in his generations it means that noah and his sons had hadn't bred with the angels and there offspring.

So why was noah 500 years old before he begat children? Because there were hardly any full bred woman to breed with! The rest were hybrids.
Now they were destroyed by the flood.But if you notice moses writes"and also after that"In 6:4 which is refering to the second rebellion which occured after the flood.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deu 2:10 The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;
Deu 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.


Deu 2:19 And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession.
Deu 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deu 2:21 A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:

Deu 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Deu 3:13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

Jos 12:4 And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,

Jos 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.

Jos 15:8 And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:

Jos 17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.

Jos 18:16 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,

Ok lol.What you must understand is that not everything that was translated "giants" was the same word in the hebrew language.Gen 6:4,num 3:33 use nephilim as where the rest of those above entries use the hebrew word "rephah" which is interpreted "giant" these are most obvisously of the same breed and sense so they are in fact half breeds of angels and woman.

david and goliath along with goliath's seed


we all know the story of david and goliath right?what's interesting is the area he's from and how all his posterity were huge and had 6 fingers and 6 toes just like him.Like all fallen angels posterity he was a barbarous man with a blasphemous mouth.

Let's move on to the new testament shall we?

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

So why doesn't god tell the angels when it will be?Because they have free will and may rebel and take satan's side so he's not going to give them the info needed to do harm.So we are obviously talking about the fallen angels giving and taking in marriage with with flesh woman and men.

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

I think this makes it clear those were angels and NOT men.They sinned by rebeling against god and god spared not the old world meaning the world before the flood.

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

They kept not their fist estate which was heaven and left that habitation to come here in rebellion and to destroy gods ultimate plan of a savior by breeding with woman so christ could not be born.Satan and his rebels failed in this.The savior was to be borned of man(through noah) and his seed line is given throughout the bible.Satan knowing this decided to try and stop it from happening by amking it impossible for there to be a true bred man.

ARCHEOLOGY AND THE FALLEN ANGELS IN REFERENCE TO THEIR OFF SPRING THE "GIANTS"

ron wyatt's giant thumb bone discovery.




Human fossils are rare because of all the special conditions needed for fossilization.Usually, only the very hard bones and teeth are preserved.
The above photo of a human thumb bone, called the Proxima Phalanx and which is the joint below the joint containing the thumbnail. Note that the size of this particular phalanx bone is at least twice the length of the gentleman's holding the fossil.

An x-ray of a typical man's hand and the position of the bone in question is shown on the right. Just to make sure that we are clear, the bone joint in the photo is the middle joint of the thumb only. You can do your own math as to the possible size of the owner of the fossil thumb in life.

This photo appears on the cover of a book by Jim Pinkoski called “The True Genesis Story of Creation. A Presentation of Ron Wyatt’s Material”, Copyright 1992 by Ron Wyatt.




An extract and photograph from the British S t r a n d magazine of December 1895, reprinted in W. G. Wood-Martin's Book, Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland, mentions a fossilized giant that had been found during mining operations in County Antrim, Ireland:

Pre-eminent among the most extraor dinary articles ever held by a railway company is the fossilized Irish giant, which is at this moment lying at the London and North-Western Railway Company's Broad street goods depot, and a photograph of which is repro duced here...

This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim.

The principal measurements are: entire length, 12 ft 2 in.; girth of chest, 6 ft 6 in.; and length of arms, 4 ft 6 in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15 cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist.




A giant foot print of "big foot" more than a thousand feet up a rugged mountain in the Cleveland National Forest.



above a picture of a giants jaw on the left and a humans on the right.

According to Ciochon et al. (1990), Gigantopithecus blacki was 10 feet tall and weighed 1,200 pounds. This is speculative, since it is with some uncertainty that one reconstructs such a massive creature from a few jaw bones and teeth, however many. The way they arrived at this picture was first to estimate the size of the head from the jaw, and then to use a head/body ratio of 1:6.5 in order to determine the body size. For comparison they cite a head/body ratio of 1:8 for the Australopithecus afarensis specimen known as 'Lucy'.







[quote]These photos were taken at different locations on the east coast of NSW, Australia. At the time that they were taken my wife and I were travelling around Australia, and had been on the road for 2 1/2 years.

In the "Dinosaurs & Giants Footprints", (above) you will notice that the two in the attachment do look similar to human footprints, footprints made by a giant.

You will also notice the impression of my shoes on the right hand side of the footprint (s8int.com outlined a few of the authors prints in red) on the left of the photo. I wear size 10 shoes.[/quote]
















**************non-biblical sources***************



artist rendition of flavius josephus

Josephus is perhaps the most respected historian of all time and definitely the greatest jewish historian of all time(outside the bible).He lived at the time of christ.
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Josephus chapter 5.2.3
For which reason they removed their camp to Hebron; and when they had taken it, they slew all the inhabitants. There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men. Now they gave this city to the Levites as an extraordinary reward, with the suburbs of two thousand cities; but the land thereto belonging they gave as a free gift to Caleb, according to the injunctions of Moses. This Caleb was one of the spies which Moses sent into the land of Canaan. They also gave land for habitation to the posterity of Jethro, the Midianite, who was the father-in-law to Moses; for they had left their own country, and followed them, and accompanied them in the wilderness.

Joshephus states here the bones of these men are still shown to this day.But he lived around the same time as christ and the exodus was approx.1500-2000 bc!!!!!!!So how did these bones still remain in Josephus's time? Apparently Josephus saw these personally being entreat due to his stature.****SPECIAL NOTE**** I'm currently research the hebrew of josephus with no luck.Bare with me.

The Book Of Enoch

This is the most used book for fallen angels.It's non canon of coarse but a great read for those that can handle it.Many consider this to have been in wide circulation in early christianity and many think it should have been included in the bible.

There are also allusions to these descendants in the deuterocanonical books of Judith, Sirach, Baruch, 3 Maccabees, and Wisdom of Solomon.

FREE RESOURCES!!!!!!!!!
e-sword is a free bible suite that includes the strong's concordance.What's nice is that each word has the hebrew word next to it so you don't have to flip pages simply go over it with your mouse pointer for the hebrew definition.You can also get the josephus and other free add-ons [ link ]




**********The Unbeliever's Side Of The Story************.

Most unbelievers claim that the sons of god were in fact seths posterity and the daughters of men are the sons of the wicked brother of able cain.

I counter this with 2peter 2:4-2:5 and jude 1:6

Lack of archeological evidence

It does seem like there is a lack of archeological discoveries to support such claims that they actually existed.What more can I say.

This is something hard to counter although a believer may argue that ron wyatts thumb,josephus's reference,and there has been archeological discoveries but they've been supressed.There certainly hasn't been any archeological evidence saying they don't exist either.

take the Ancient American Giants
Scientific American
August 14, 1880 Page 106
for example.There is to many to list!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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